SMASH THE FAT CYCLE

gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 17:06 #110188 by gorilla

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My friend wants to do a fatloss cycle befor going on juice again. He has been on supertest 1ml a week and Enanthate 1ml a week for 10 weeks.

His bodyfat is like 15-17% at the moment.

He is opting for some Winny,Proviron and T3 and maybe riverject.

Anyone have good cycles for his goals, he is looking to get really lean asap.

Anyone used riverject? Do you think its really neccesary?

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manery
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21 Jun 2012 18:23 #110206 by manery

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"My friend wants to do a fatloss cycle befor going on juice again"

I rate he should just sort out his diet and use some fat burners, if he uses steroids with this cutting cycle its just going to prolong the wait for the cycle he's trying to get cut up for... My 2c

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MRfeathers
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21 Jun 2012 18:38 #110207 by MRfeathers

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Keto diet with Clen and yohimbine

keep calm and listen to Feathers

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GregB1
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21 Jun 2012 19:01 #110213 by GregB1

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i started my clen monday and i have been out of gym since then from bronchitis

still managing to get in all my protien and i have lost 2kg since monday and only on 80 mg at the moment gonna up it soon. clen is amazing but i can imagine the results pared with yohimbine. so i recon he should do a keto diet and get clen and yohimbine like rvp suggested.

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Empire
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21 Jun 2012 19:11 #110214 by Empire

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u rip okes off for doing oral only cycles then post up something like this, proviron and stan as an oral only cycle...

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 19:17 #110215 by gorilla

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Keto is a good idea and the clen and yohimbe is out as he has already used clen this year - I read somewhere that 3months per year max?

@dj, not sure what you mean hey?

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 19:19 #110217 by gorilla

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Oral only cycles suck, but this isnt really a cycle its just fatloss, he doesnt want to gain or whatever.

Winny and proviron or Var and proviron is quite a common oral only cycle imo and it can be done as there is minimal water with these roids not like dbol only or naps only where you lose everything post cycle.

Even inja said a dbol only cycle can be done if you do it like a real cycle and you are prepared to lose like half of your gains.

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MRfeathers
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21 Jun 2012 19:21 #110218 by MRfeathers

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So then?? I'm sure he wasn't on Clen for 3 months

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 19:25 #110220 by gorilla

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Not sure.

The clen and yohimbe is a great stack, but dont you guys think he should run some prop or winny with proviron alongside that to spare as much muscle as possible?

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MRfeathers
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21 Jun 2012 19:28 #110222 by MRfeathers

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That isn't necessary if he eats enough grams of protein a day to sustain his lean mass. Some okes even put a kilo or 2 of muscle on while on keto

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 19:31 #110225 by gorilla

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Mmm but keto is kak bro, I still have to convince him to do keto, he was planning a basic 500 below maintenance diet with carbs in 2 meals only, post and breakfast.

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MRfeathers
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21 Jun 2012 19:33 - 21 Jun 2012 19:33 #110226 by MRfeathers

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Why is it kak? Greg lost over 20 kilos in a few months. Well if he wants to be fussy then ask him what he wants to do instead of giving him advice

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 19:39 #110231 by gorilla

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Hahaha eating no carbs is hectic bro, ive tried it EISH!

Not that it doesnt work, but I think he can do lose his fat without doing keto, he isnt that fat, a big guy with fat spreaded if you get me? Lol

I just want to know if the cycle is doable, he probably needs to drop like 5-6kgs. You wont believe how much guys juice in my gym bro. Winny and proviron with a fatburner to cut and deca+test to bulk. These are the guys who blow up and shrink the whole time! :whistle: :lol:

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GregB1
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21 Jun 2012 19:59 #110236 by GregB1

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if he wants one of the fastest methods of loosing then convince him to do the keto it will be for like 4 weeks if he pares it with clen and yohimbine and does 30 min walks everyday

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GregB1
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21 Jun 2012 19:59 #110238 by GregB1

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if not faster than 4 weeks

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Empire
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21 Jun 2012 20:03 #110240 by Empire

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What I mean is when some one says they wanna use dbol only u aswell as everyone else says that they are stupid to do so... And then u go and ask if winstrol and proviron is alright? Why doesn't your mate stop being lazy and do things right without anabolics instead of looking for a quick fix,cos 6week winstrol cycle,then an injectable cycle with an oral front load means too long on orals.

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 20:32 #110245 by gorilla

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His next cycle is going to be in a year. He wants to do a cutting cycle now. He just wants to look good again as he let himself go, he is already working on his diet, now he wants to do a little cutting cycle.

Its not a prep to be lean for his next cycle, he wants to do a solid cutting cycle, lol.

But thanks dj, I see what you mean.

Thanks for all the input so far buddies!

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 20:37 #110246 by gorilla

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Oh and I was in a haze when typing his bodyfat haha its like 12-15%, dont know how I got 17 :silly:

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GregB1
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21 Jun 2012 20:40 #110247 by GregB1

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anytime gorilla, sorry i thought he wanted to just loose weight before a cycle.

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Heretic47
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21 Jun 2012 21:12 #110248 by Heretic47

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I honestly don't think any anabolics are needed. at most clen and yohimbine.

just make sure 50% of the cals come from protein. will spare precious muscles

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gorilla
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21 Jun 2012 21:24 #110249 by gorilla

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Thanks heretic, I also think like a 2500cal diet with 50/30/20 ratio is good, but you know how people are...

Im gonna make him join the forum! Me and a few friends sometimes use the VA computers! :lol: :lol:

So internet shouldnt be a prob..

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Heretic47
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21 Jun 2012 21:48 #110251 by Heretic47

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gorilla wrote: Thanks heretic, I also think like a 2500cal diet with 50/30/20 ratio is good, but you know how people are...

Im gonna make him join the forum! Me and a few friends sometimes use the VA computers! :lol: :lol:

So internet shouldnt be a prob..

true. they always know of better.

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21 Jun 2012 22:02 - 21 Jun 2012 22:02 #110252 by Yohimbe

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gorilla wrote: My friend wants to do a fatloss cycle befor going on juice again. He has been on supertest 1ml a week and Enanthate 1ml a week for 10 weeks.

His bodyfat is like 15-17% at the moment.

He is opting for some Winny,Proviron and T3 and maybe riverject.

Anyone have good cycles for his goals, he is looking to get really lean asap.

Anyone used riverject? Do you think its really neccesary?

Winny and proviron are juice-he needs to come off and get through pct and recover.

Even though the suppression iisn't as much using these, there is still suppression and on the back of the cycle and then going straight to another he's bridging=sure way to end up on trt

How old is the guy?

Agree with Greg on Keto-definitely the most efficient way at dropping fat without chems.

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gorilla
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22 Jun 2012 06:59 #110263 by gorilla

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He is 28. Did one test cycle a year ago and gained 12kgs solid after pct.

He wants to do a cutting cycle. His next bulk cycle is not even in sight yet.

How about prop,winny,clen,proviron?

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Inja
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22 Jun 2012 11:48 #110304 by Inja

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I think it's cleared up now that he wants to do a cutting cycle, not bridge cycles, and he will take adequate time off from juice after he is done with the cutting cycle.
With that in mind, he should just nail it, if it is a cycle then make it a cycle. With his limited experience he will put on muscle while cutting the fat. He can diet hard, and retain mass.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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