Clen and yohimbine cycle please help!!!

Hi Guys

Been off the gym scene for some time now nearly 1 year and have picked up some extra weight that I will be getting rid of soon. Thinking of going on a clen and yohimbine cycle to lose some weight get to around 10% bf before I hit a nice little steroid cycle to get me back to were I was before I left gym. Please can some of you guys let me know the best way to stack these 2 together. I have read on this forum that yohimbine is best taken before breakfast as insulin affects it. My problem is that I will be training in the morning at around 9am. I will eat my breakfast at 7:30am and train at 9am training normally is 1hr to 1hr 15min will then have post workout shake and about 1 hour after that start with the rest of my meals for the day. Please let me know how to structure my clen and yohimbine cycle based on the time I will be training and the time I eat breakfast in the morning thanks

Do you know what dosages to take it in and do you know what to do when beta receptors down regulate after 2 weeks?

I would still take dosage first thing in the morning and go hit a 20-30min slow cardio, come home and eat breakfast. Do the cardio, this will help burn fat even quicker. How is the diet?

Diet is in check got a custom one made by a well known bodybuilder who is in the muscle evolution mag from time to time. I know max dosage for clen is 120mcg per day start on around 40mcg. The yohimbine not to sure of. With Beta receptors dont you take betasleep or something to sort out the receptors? I dont just do the cardio in the morning it will be my weights as well. A break down of how to structure this would be great thanks.

Yohimbine at 10mg will be cool. Wake up at 6:30 take you clen and yohimbine, hit a cardio session. Come Home, Eat. Go back to gym at the 9:30 slot and hit your weights and then do whatever else it is you do for the day. Come on bro, do you want me to tell you when to pee to!!

Oh yes, you do take betasleep after two weeks and take that about a half hour before you go to bed, see

Doctari suggests taking ketotifen/betasleep from day one. Ketotifen at 15mls just before bed. Remember wait atleast 2-3 hours after taking Clen before you do cardio.

Pyroclasm wrote: Doctari suggests taking ketotifen/betasleep from day one. Ketotifen at 15mls just before bed. Remember wait atleast 2-3 hours after taking Clen before you do cardio.

Not neccesary, only after week 2 bud. This is when receptors down regulate and need a boost again. Why wait the 2-3hrs before cardio?

Dude I definitely wouldn't argue with Doctari. I.m.o and from personal experience take it from day 1 because 1)Not expensive, and 2)It really makes the Clen more effective. Bro think about it logically- receptors aren't like fully 100% awesome on day 13 and then when the sun rises on the 14th day they decide that life is shit and screw the universe. Receptors start the process of down regulating from day 1. It's just that after 2 weeks they are so down regulated that they become ineffective.

Ok

its betasleep that you can take after the full 2 weeks david, but pyroclasm is right, he suggests running it from day 1.

David.biohazard wrote: Yohimbine at 10mg will be cool. Wake up at 6:30 take you clen and yohimbine, hit a cardio session. Come Home, Eat. Go back to gym at the 9:30 slot and hit your weights and then do whatever else it is you do for the day. Come on bro, do you want me to tell you when to pee to!!

I would take the yohimbe, go to gym, come home and then take the clen. Clen screws up your cardio session especially if you want to push it a bit

@ABC: Clen works at its best when combined with cardio right? So logically to obtain the full effect out of Clen you would want a high amount of Clen in your system whilst doing cardio. The fact that Clen messes with you a bit during cardio is something to live with cause the side effects of Clen are only there because the Clen is working. So why would you take the Clen only afterwards and basically try to minimize the amount of Clen in your system while doing cardio?

I can push harder on clen. Also clen's half life is about 36 hours, so it does not really matter when you take it - it will still be in the system the next day

Pyroclasm wrote: @ABC: Clen works at its best when combined with cardio right? So logically to obtain the full effect out of Clen you would want a high amount of Clen in your system whilst doing cardio. The fact that Clen messes with you a bit during cardio is something to live with cause the side effects of Clen are only there because the Clen is working. So why would you take the Clen only afterwards and basically try to minimize the amount of Clen in your system while doing cardio?

Its just a personal choice for me. I cannot do a decent cardio session on the stuff. Im sure i am not the only one. If it works for you then sure thing

Unfortunatly I cant do cardio first and then go back to gym second time at 9:30am. I have a wife and 2 kids that I need to drop off at school and work so that idea goes out the window. My only time slot is around 9am so will need to do weights then and cardio after weights. Ok so from what I have read please correct me if I am wrong, I will take 10mg yohimbine and my dosage of clen starting on 40mcg when I wake up with an empty stomach at around 6:00am, 7:00am will eat my breakfast 8 eggs(2 yolk rest white)+ bowl of oats. train at 9am for +- 1hr 15min have my post workout 2 servings of whey and 50g waxy maize, 1hr after that have my second food meal for the day and carry on from there with the rest of my diet. How does this sound? I see DJ is the local guru on this site maybe some advise from him would be great as well.

Yes that's fine. Post workout do not use waxy maize starch- it does not spike your insulin levels for the uptake of nutrients. Rather use Vitargo or Dextrose Monohydrate or glucose powder. For the Clen, if this is your first time start on 40mcg and increase by 20mcg every 4 days. And moderate cardio only. We have had some nice threads on Clen in the forum and also read up in the articles section.

@iMan & @ABC: Yeah I agree with you I guess it's a matter of personal choice. Clen does have quite a long half-life for an oral. For me I feel that having the most amount in my system at cardio works best.

Hi Pyroclasm

Thanks for the feedback the reason why I use the waxy maize is because it does not cause a insulin spike. I was told by my Personal trainer to use this as it replenishes glycogen without the insulin spike from the sugars keeps your insulin levels down as much as possible to restore sensitivity as I need to lose some excess fat

Pleasure bro. Your personal trainer is misinformed. We need the insulin spike after workouts to increase the uptake of nutrients like protein, Creatine, Glutamine, and all those nice things. I promise you that if you take it post-workout you will not see an extra mg of fat in your body. Why you would get fat is if you have an insulin spike while consuming fats. An example is eating chocolates- the sugar spikes your insulin, and then you get fat from the fat content in the chocolate because your body will absorb every morsel of it. Also the waxy maize goes through the system too quickly do it can not replenish glycogen stores like the other ones can.

What time do you drop of your wife and kids? What is the timeslot you can train?

@iman leave home at around 7:15am finished dropping everyone off by 8:30am will be at gym by 9am

Clen + Yohimbine empty stomach @ 6
Walk/jog/cycle then till 7
Have breakfast at 7 to 7.15 or on the road
Drop everyone off
Gym 9-10

or

Clen on empty stomach
Have breakfast
drop everyone off
perhaps small meal
gym from 9-10
take yohimbine 9.45
only whey iso post workout @ 10
cardio 10-10.45

@ iman option 2 sounds better but I cant be that many hours in the gym I still need to work so I can afford the clen and yohimbine. Think I will go with option two but just do my cardio straight after my weights my weights noramlly only takes around 45 to 50 min and cardio will be 30 min so total time in gym is around 1hr 15 min

getting big wrote: @ iman option 2 sounds better but I cant be that many hours in the gym I still need to work so I can afford the clen and yohimbine. Think I will go with option two but just do my cardio straight after my weights my weights noramlly only takes around 45 to 50 min and cardio will be 30 min so total time in gym is around 1hr 15 min

Yes that fine then

ok cool so clen and yohimbine will be taken 1 hour before breakfast and after breakfast will hit the gym