beplan my eerste test cycle

Ek wil volgende jaar jan my eerste test cycle doen.my stats is 92kg,7 persent bf en 21 jaar oud en 177cm lank. Ek gym als hard vir 2jaar en gan dit nou na die next level vat.... Ek beplan of 2ml pgw supertest 320 of 3ml pgw cyp... Ek gan front load met 40mg blou harte dbol en proviron 50mg n dag deur julle cycle. My main doel is om soveel as moontlik skoon muscle op te tel! so voel vry om komentaar te lewer oor my cycle

Ek neem aan jy het jou navorsing al goed gedoen. Die pct is net so belangrik soos die cycle so hou kop. 1.77m/92kg/7% bf is 'n great basis om jou 1ste cycle vanaf te doen. Jy kan dalk nog 'n jaar of 2 wag maar jy het klaar jou mind opgemaak. Die cycle lyk goed vir 'n 1ste cycle. Supertest gaan jou dalk bietjie kou so hou by test cyp of test en.
Iets soos dit:
500-600mg test cyp of en week 1-12 (1 pin/week)
40mg dbol ed week 1-4
Prov 60mg ed tot dag voor pct
50mg winstrol ed teruggewerk vanaf 2 dae voor pct vir 6 weke
AI: 0.2mg arimidex eod (opsioneel) tot 1ste dag van pct

Onthou dat pct begin 3 x die half life van test ester

PCT: clomind 100mg ed (split) vir 7 dae
nolvadex 20mg ed vir 4 weke
HCG: ek verkies om hcg te vat sodat laaste pin op die dag is wat pct begin. 500IU eod

ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

I'm with ABC on this one. Anything under 500mg test a week is a bit of a waste IMO. Even for a beginner. Yeah 250 to 300mg will definitely yield results but 500mg is a very decent dosage.

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

The beginner cycle on the site is also 500mg Testosterone Cypionate per week, so ABC is correct.

MCJ wrote:

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

I'm with ABC on this one. Anything under 500mg test a week is a bit of a waste IMO. Even for a beginner. Yeah 250 to 300mg will definitely yield results but 500mg is a very decent dosage.

I thought I had my first cycle fully planned and now I'm hearing this? :lol: So many different opinions out there it's hard to figure out who to believe.

Isn't the idea to first see how your body responds?

I think I must post my full proposed cycle in another thread then for comments (also so as not to hijack this thread).

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

The beginner cycle on the site is also 500mg Testosterone Cypionate per week, so ABC is correct.

Isn't it 250mg every 5 days?

Nee hou hierdie thread aan di gang. Dit gaan oor dieselfde cycle. Anders flood jy net di topic list met basies dieselfde threads.

Ek sien ook ni wat di groot verskil is wavan jy praat ni. Hou di test by 500-600mg. Supertest is n blixem en hy byt. Dis hoekom di cyp of enanthate voorgestel is.

Ja di doel is om te sien hoe jou lyf respond, mar test is di veiligste en die basis van enige cycle. Daar na kan jy begin substances by gooi as jy weet hoe jou lyf da op reageer.

Safehouse wrote:

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

The beginner cycle on the site is also 500mg Testosterone Cypionate per week, so ABC is correct.

Isn't it 250mg every 5 days?

Maybe we are not talking about the same cycle? The one I made is 500mg, so not sure if you are referring to one on the forum...

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote:

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

The beginner cycle on the site is also 500mg Testosterone Cypionate per week, so ABC is correct.

Isn't it 250mg every 5 days?

Maybe we are not talking about the same cycle? The one I made is 500mg, so not sure if you are referring to one on the forum...

This one admin? Beginner bulking cycle.

Safehouse wrote:

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote:

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

The beginner cycle on the site is also 500mg Testosterone Cypionate per week, so ABC is correct.

Isn't it 250mg every 5 days?

Maybe we are not talking about the same cycle? The one I made is 500mg, so not sure if you are referring to one on the forum...

This one admin? Beginner bulking cycle.

its more like every 4th day, its to keep stable blood levels, i think.but adim will correct me if iam wrong.

manery wrote:

Safehouse wrote:

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote:

admin wrote:

Safehouse wrote: ABC I'm interested to know why you recommend double to more than double the test cyp dosage for this first cycle in terms of the dosage recommended in the beginner cycle section (dbol & testocyp).

The beginner cycle on the site is also 500mg Testosterone Cypionate per week, so ABC is correct.

Isn't it 250mg every 5 days?

Maybe we are not talking about the same cycle? The one I made is 500mg, so not sure if you are referring to one on the forum...

This one admin? Beginner bulking cycle.

its more like every 4th day, its to keep stable blood levels, i think.but adim will correct me if iam wrong.

Edit: Complete maths failure on my part! :ohmy:

Baie dankie vir als die help mense die site is rereg nice! Ek neem an die winstrol is om biekie water af te gooi na die test? Ek hou nie baie van winny nie dis dhd based... Water ander opsies is daar soos bv my een friend het op nomad test combo en naps 50mg n dag vir 25 dae en 2 ml vani test 14kg opgetel en 1 verloor na pct!

WoW! 13kg in een maand. Dis fokken awesome.

14kg ni onmoontlik ni. Mar dis def ni muscle mass ni. Nie op dai cycle ni. En net 1kg verloor na pct.....dan my friend het hy n kakhuis vol vet opgetel want dai is onmoontlik.

dboljunkie wrote: Baie dankie vir als die help mense die site is rereg nice! Ek neem an die winstrol is om biekie water af te gooi na die test? Ek hou nie baie van winny nie dis dhd based... Water ander opsies is daar soos bv my een friend het op nomad test combo en naps 50mg n dag vir 25 dae en 2 ml vani test 14kg opgetel en 1 verloor na pct!

I call that bullshit. 14kg gains factor in water retention from the test and naps and probably poor diet = gains that are basically water and fat

Dit wasi een maand nie dit was 10 weeke net een maand opi naps en verder opi test 2ml n week dis rerag solid muscle sy bf is dan die selfde as foor die cycle?

14kg kan ek insien, dat hy net 1kg verloor het? Kk. Daai cycle was heelwaarskeinlik baie water. Of hyt homself geweeg met sand in sy sakke haha

Dis ma net wat ek gesien het? Het eenage iemand hierso als so n cycle gebruik??

We'll jys seke water gesien. Of daai perd het npp daar saam gebryk :lol:
Ekt al 750mg test saam 40mg dbol gebruik. Die test was vir 12weeke.

Wat het jy toe op daai cycle gegain? En wate tiepe test?

Ekt van 98 tot 107 gegan (na pct). Selfde bf. Was my tweede. Test cyp

Haha n regte afrikaanse thread... :lol:

@dboljunkie I would just go with what ABC has recommended. This is a good basis for you to start with. The AI (Adex or Letro) you use will also help with water retention. How is your diet looking? DO you know what your BMR is? Do you know how many calories you need to up it by while on cycle? These are all questions you need to ask yourself before you start your cycle as this will predetermine the kind of gains you will make. The alternative to winny would be anavar, a bit more expensive and needs to be run for a longer time period.

Ek weet hoeveel cals ek kort. My dieet is baie goed disi eending wat eki meeste oplees oor en rond vra, ek eet amper altyd 1000+ cals te veel ma tel nie vet opi so dis goed! Ek wil meer weet oor wat jule dinkie beste pct gan wees, ek het gedink dhea,ghrp6,clomid,pregnal?? Wat dink julle?