Whats your favorite steroids and why?

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18 Feb 2011 13:03 #61352 by 00pump

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My are, Primobolan, Anavar, Proviron, Equipoise.

Why?

Primobolan - This stuff is mothers milk, you can run long cycles of this will hardly any side effects and a low dose of proviron next to it. It also never completely shuts me down, I will be looking at doing an LP acetate cycle of this shortly...

Anavar - Low sides and extremely lean gains, strength is also mind blowing, I also don't feel that irritable on this drug.

Proviron - What can I not say about this wonder drug, I love it! As I get old the more I love this drug.

Equipoise - This stuff makes me coat shine

If there was ever a perfect steroid this would be it in my books, I hardly get gyno side effects, I get strength increase like that of testosterone and I stay lean, it helps me get down all my good food and gives me extreme endurance if I'm playing sport, surfing, etc.

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STUARTF
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18 Feb 2011 14:01 #61355 by STUARTF

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Hey Pump, this is a tough one. There are so many but I'll have to go with Equipoise and Masteron.

Equipoise, like you said is almost a perfect steroid. It has minimal side effects, no bloating, huge strengh increase and it doesn't have a outrageous price tag. It also seems to give me sense of well-being when I'm on it, I feel stronger in body and mind.

Masteron is one of those steroids that work in the background, silently sculpting newly formed muscle for a that ultimate shredded appearance. It also brings out all the veins in your body and in terms of vascularity it is the best. It is also one of the safest steroids with just about no side effects. It is the best cutting steroid in my opinion.

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SNOK1986
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18 Feb 2011 14:41 #61357 by SNOK1986

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Deca - Get good gains from it

Masteron - makes me hard as a rock and vascular

proviron - what more can i say

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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18 Feb 2011 15:01 #61365 by Empire

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equi and tren

lean gains,and well tren is just the business....

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18 Feb 2011 15:45 #61368 by 00pump

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Dj how many mg per week on tren ?

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ABC01
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18 Feb 2011 17:19 #61372 by ABC01

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I have been interested in EQ since i've started reading up on steroids. What would you guys say is a good dose for a 1st EQ cycle (for a guy of 78kg)?

I like the following 3 steroids and they make a great cycle:
Test prop/NPP/masteron
Nothing needed to say about masteron and test prop but NPP might be my slight favourite. Great strength very quick, nice and lean gains and it lubes my joints nicely. Great for me who struggles with left shoulder

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18 Feb 2011 17:41 #61373 by bbb26bbb

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Testosterone-The stuff men are made out of

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18 Feb 2011 18:04 #61376 by 00pump

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lol @ bbb26bbb

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Fakey_AK
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18 Feb 2011 20:16 #61387 by Fakey_AK

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Npp - Fast and great gains, no waiting weeks for it to work
Test prop - Once again fast acting and i find it leaner then the rest.
Proviron - Best of everything ( plus it's the misses favourite steroid too! )

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18 Feb 2011 21:33 #61391 by vega5

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Test: Just because its the staple and makes me feel lekker.

Proviron: The ultimate feel good drug!

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Perpetuous Dreamer
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18 Feb 2011 21:40 #61393 by Perpetuous Dreamer

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sorry a bit off topic but 00pump how would you structure a long primo cycle as you mentioned in your post? Just primo and proviron?

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Pumped
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19 Feb 2011 06:34 #61398 by Pumped

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For me it's test prop ,NPP and equi.

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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Wayne
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19 Feb 2011 06:55 #61399 by Wayne

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test cyp, cheap, good bang for your buck, easily available... And it was my first...lost my virginity to cyp, 1st time i jabbed myself was with cyp..my first true love, its true, you never forget your first!

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19 Feb 2011 09:23 #61402 by roidolone

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all this talk is making me very hungry

The day i stop training is the day i die!

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21 Feb 2011 07:26 #61493 by chemically enhanced

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guys pls can someone help me with this,
if proviron and masteron are relatively safe with little to no sides and have good gains why is it not recommended for an individuals first cycle,for instance would it be safe for one to do a first cycle of 500mgs test p/w with masteron and proviron added in there?
is it not recommended cause of sides and difficulties or is there another reason?

and just want to say shot to 00pump,dj,spike admin and all the other guys on this board who take their time to help complete strangers,i have learnt so much from this board and wish everyone knew about it,last week a friend of mine landed himself in hospital cause he just didnt listen to me instead went with the big guy in our gyms advice,i want to kill that big guy

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21 Feb 2011 08:32 #61500 by 00pump

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You are more than welcome to add Proviron to any and every cycle. Masteron is an amazing drug but should be used in the right place. I find the power of Masteron is only shown when your body fat is in single digits, then again the same can be said about Proviron however its not highlighted with that characteristic, more just for enhancing every other steroid it is taken with, then again Masteron does the same thing, just better. However for the price that Proviron comes in at, and if you don't have a specific reason for Masteron then rather just use Proviron. I do majority of my cycles these days, with 1 compound eg: Anavar + Proviron, or Primo + Proviron, I am staying away from anything Androgenic, then again I am testing Turinabol at 80mg a day, so far so good, and no reported signs of gyno, which is an upside, as Dianabol gives me signs after 3 days.

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Koe007
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21 Feb 2011 09:03 #61505 by Koe007

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Sorry if this has been answered before but what is NPP?

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STUARTF
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21 Feb 2011 09:08 #61506 by STUARTF

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NPP - Nandrolone Phenylpropionate

It is similar to deca (also nandrolone) but with less water retention. It is also short-acting as it has the propionate ester.

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spike
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21 Feb 2011 09:12 #61508 by spike

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nandralone phenyl propionate. Basically nandrolone with a prop ester, or quick acting deca.

No prob chemically, its a privelege to be a part of this site and to share our knowledge and learn from others

Um, but im scared of needles...

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Koe007
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21 Feb 2011 09:14 #61509 by Koe007

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Thanks a lot guys seems worth a try after PCT and off time.

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21 Feb 2011 09:21 #61513 by 00pump

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Hrm, not to be funny, but I can't wrap my brain around that, it's the same hormone, just like Prop cannot cause less water than Cyp and E regardless if some say it can, the science cant change, and regardless of stable blood hormone levels, that comes after time, so one can't say it causes more water because X stabilizes quicker than Y so less side effects should be considered, as if that was the case then water would be less notable once our bodies find stability from the drug / hormone.

Also yes, I understand if you compare a short to a long ester chain, the mg/mg ratio is normally allot higher, however NPP / Deca release very similar amounts of hormones per mg.

So it's scientifically not possible that it can result in less water, unless i'm not understanding something correctly?

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STUARTF
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21 Feb 2011 10:53 #61534 by STUARTF

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Hey Pump
One would think that because NPP and Deca are both 19-nor progestins with a nandrolone base that they would both exhibit the same side-effects, the only difference being the time of release or half-life. However by attaching the phenylpropionate ester to the nandrolone base, it seems as if there is a change in the physical properties, one being the decreased water retention and the other being less HPTA shutdown. The same can be said for injectable testosterones, where we find that shorter esters provide much less water retention. I'm not sure what the scientific reasoning is but I can definately say from my experience that this is true.

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23 Feb 2011 09:46 #61682 by chemically enhanced

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so pump you recommend i leave the masteron out and use only test and proviron in my first cycle?
if i did 500mgs test enanthate a week for 10 weeks where would i use the proviron and at what dose?

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23 Feb 2011 09:57 #61685 by 00pump

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STUARTF wrote: Hey Pump
One would think that because NPP and Deca are both 19-nor progestins with a nandrolone base that they would both exhibit the same side-effects, the only difference being the time of release or half-life. However by attaching the phenylpropionate ester to the nandrolone base, it seems as if there is a change in the physical properties, one being the decreased water retention and the other being less HPTA shutdown. The same can be said for injectable testosterones, where we find that shorter esters provide much less water retention. I'm not sure what the scientific reasoning is but I can definately say from my experience that this is true.

It would make sense, then again, how things look on paper and how they work in our bodies is often very different. So I was just interested to how it actually can cause less water.. Not to worry, I will chat to a mate in Durban who lectures Biochemistry and maybe he can shed some light on this..

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23 Feb 2011 10:05 #61688 by 00pump

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chemically enhanced wrote: so pump you recommend i leave the masteron out and use only test and proviron in my first cycle?
if i did 500mgs test enanthate a week for 10 weeks where would i use the proviron and at what dose?

Yo, you can use the Proviron from day one as much as any drug contain toxins, it isn't a C-17 Alkyl substituted steroid, I would still use liver support while taking Proviron. Finding a dose that works for you, would be completely personal and I find I have gotten to know my body quite well and know when to increase the dose during the cycle.

On a cycle like yours, I would start off with 40mg a day for majority of the cycle, and then ramp it right up to a 100mg during the time you wait for long ester to work our your body. I sometimes use Proviron during my PCT (as proviron does reduce estrogen and can raise testosterone), well the first 2 weeks of my PCT, I find that way my Libido stays extremely high and I have a comfortable transition from cycle -> pct and then again from pct -> natural training.

If I don't I find I crash for the first 2/3 weeks of PCT, sometimes even longer.

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