Test / EQ / Masteron / Anavar cycle

Yo

Tell me what you think...

Will be doing a 17 week cycle, on week 6 at the moment (i think wrote it down somewhere, don't really keep track of this that well)

Week 1-2 Anadrol 50mg pd
Week 1-16 EQ 700mg per week
Week 1-4 900mg test E
Week 4-15 600mg test E (dose drop related to gyno)
Week 8-16 Masteron 300mg per week (every 3rd day shot)
Week 8-17 Anavar 40mg per day
Week * -> PCT

- Note: during cycle from week 8 will start shooting 250iu of HCG every 3rd day right up till end of week 17 when I start PCT (doc's PCT)

Anavar dose is low due to already running EQ and Masteron?

Any feedback / anyone who has done this kind of cycle would be great... I’m sitting at 109kgs with 8/9% body fat. I’m looking at being around 115kg’s by the end of the cycle, if need be I will extend the cycle until I am around 115kg’s singly digit bodyfat. I have been up at 120+kgs so it’s not like I’m trying to climb to a reading that I have not reached before my health came to a standstill and had to stop gym for what feels like a lifetime.

I know it's not idea to shoot the Masteron every 3rd day but this is how I’m doing it, as it has a long base and it has the same 'drug' regardless if it’s a short or long ester and I believe I will find a stable level doing it this way? It's the same principle as Sustanon being injected once a week yet still having a stable blood plasma level.

Hi Bud,
Your protocol on the Masteron is good. I assume its PGW? Prop and enanthate blend then and I always advise to inject on the shortest ester of the blend. In this case the prop with EOD shots. You get to utilize the compound better and the ester release as well.

You should look at proviron at the end and maybe replace the var with that. Running long cycles or longish cycles raises the cortizol concern and gains start to taper off towards the end. Look at a low dose of the proviron and start when the var is starting until you start PCT. This will do you well in your last quarter.

Why don't you just administer all your gear with the same protocol? If you doing EOD injections of the masteron then split the stack to administer on those days as well. Less injections maybe, but definitely more stable levels to promote better gains.

Thanks for he response, i'll work out a way to split it then, it might be over a 6 day split instead of 7... Yup Masteron is PGW, sounds good with the proviron as I believe LP will have theirs released by then, what dose i'm I looking at? 40mg per day?

Sweet

2 caps are good, so 40 yes. Generally you look at 20 - 100mg p/day and you can just quick as it is oral and the response will be fast.
just mail me pls, think you did yesterday about this but was a little "distracted" with other pressing matters.

You seem a little sensitive to gyno or estrogen related sides, so 1 cap might even do the trick.

Have a mate I helped end of last year with deca, test, OT course. Proviron last 3 weeks (LP). If he goes over 500mg p/week of test he gets estrogen sides like you.

He had bad water with 1ml PGW deca so moved to 0,5ml. Put on 3kgs in 2 days, we mailed valpre and thanked then though ....

Anyway, point is, he started with 2 caps proviron and then moved to 1 due to acne etc. Hard as a rock and 13kgs later (8 week cycle) and has not lost 1kg with my help since then.

People who say PGW or LP does not work ARE DOING IT WRONG.

Thanks I appreciate the reply and it sounds exactly like my sides, I can just get away with 600mg test on 0.5mg Letro.

Hmm, ok I’ll do the LP proviron last 3 weeks then and see how it goes... Really keen to start feeling like a rock and shredded! I'm extremely lucky and never had acne in 10 years of cycling. Few pimples on my shoulders maybe like 10 in the whole cycle, but those freaking barstid ones that hurt like hell that my chick can't help herself but while ticking me tries to squeeze when I’m in the most relaxed state every turning me into a monster that wants to tear the house apart (ok that a bit of an exaggeration but you get my point )

I have a friend who took some LP anapolin now and he has been cycling for years too and he says he has never felt anything quite like it and blew up like a balloon. PGW and LP are just incredible. Now that LP is releasing new stuff it's actually of no use buying anything from anyone else...

Why don't you try and use A-Dex instead of Letro? It might work better in your case.

Jeah that is a good idea, I was just running my little 'experiment' and then going to go the Adex route 1mg p/d and see how that works, I have a feeling it will tolerate a higher dose a test, well we will see. End of the cycle i'll go under the knife again so I must make sure I have the cycle protocol waxed as I do not feel like doing a 3rd gyno op

Netro tell me if I only use 20mg of Anavar could I then add a mild amount of Winnie (10mg) then its mild on the liver specially with these doses and I don't need to worry about gyno with the winstrol.. Jeah I know this is a huge blend of gear but it seems like it will work out quite nicely? I will only cycle the Winstrol for 4 weeks starting from next week.

You already have the Masteron in there and adding winny, even at 10mg might run you into issues. the effects of the 2 will be similar, except no sides from the Masteron. Hence my suggestion of the proviron. Proviron has basically the same effect on free test as winny and that is the only benefit you will get from the winny, but 10mg is to low for that even. Its also quite a cocktail like you mentioned and if you start getting sides that are concerning it will be difficult to pin point the culprit.

Run the proviron along side the var and see how it goes, just note that var takes 21 days for it to reach peak concentration.

If you feel the proviron dose is to low you can adjust and will notice the difference quickly.

I think the worst side, for you, with the proviron will be increased sex drive.

Please do not hijack this thread so blatantly!.. If you want to ask about your friends shocking cycle start a new thread.

Right here’s an update... My knees are starting to really take allot of strain here, this could be the long drive on Saturday and the Letro with it but I feel the var is already drying me up. How long does one usually wait for the Masteron with a short and long acting ester to kick in, around a week?

The other issue is my vision has gone blurry but that could be from other medication and I feel extremely lethargic and have 0 % energy to do anything, just feel like chilling or better yet just lying down. I'm feeling very irritable and short and in a place where I don't really care much about anything. Even eating is becoming a job and a half for me and it’s hard at work as I feel like just lying around and waiting for the clock to strike home time. Maybe its depression kicking in, it could be as I’m not really laughing much and just feel down, the vision could be from the Nolva that I added a 3 nights ago to start seeing the effects of the gyno on Masteron + Nolva + Letro.

PS: even writing this I removed my post around 3 times before I finaly decided to click submit. It's like I just don't care about much at the moment. You know like that feeling when you driving a car and then you just going straight at quite a speed and you just feel like not turning? Well thats the kind of the feeling in a deep tired state of mind.

Anyone suffer from anxiety/depression with Masteron?

The only thing I noticed was while on Var I couldn't eat a lot, it was like I wasn't that hungry. Var dried me up pretty bad. Couldn't do any cardio. I used Masteron in that cycle and did not experience depression/anxiety.

Maybe the low estrogen is getting to you?

Well i suffered from the exact same thing, after my cycle on my PCT after my pregnyl, was on kesser when i started feeling like my life was over...going to gym after work, making meals, doing anything really was a mission and i was like a woman with PMS...

Might have been estro or it could of been the effects of tamoxifen maybe...

PS: cycle was test prop and equi

SNOK1986 wrote:

Well i suffered from the exact same thing, after my cycle on my PCT after my pregnyl, was on kesser when i started feeling like my life was over...going to gym after work, making meals, doing anything really was a mission and i was like a woman with PMS...

Might have been estro or it could of been the effects of tamoxifen maybe...

PS: cycle was test prop and equi

hmm, where you able to gym at least and eat?

Hmmm, 2 cups of green tea down and 2 cups of chamomile down and i'm feeling a whole lot better. Energy is slowly coming back too..

Yes i went to gym, but i had to really force myself and thank fuck i have a training partner who motivated me to get to the gym.

Eating wasnt to bad... but wasnt as hungry as before obvioulsy coz of not being on equi anymore. Making the meals just irratated the living shit out of me.

SNOK1986 wrote:

Yes i went to gym, but i had to really force myself and thank fuck i have a training partner who motivated me to get to the gym.

Eating wasnt to bad... but wasnt as hungry as before obvioulsy coz of not being on equi anymore. Making the meals just irratated the living shit out of me.

LOL, you crack me up... I hate cooking too, normally on a Sunday I cook a massive stew for Monday / Tuesday food.. takes around 3/4 hours to do it properly. DRIVES ME INSANE!!!!

00pump wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

Yes i went to gym, but i had to really force myself and thank fuck i have a training partner who motivated me to get to the gym.

Eating wasnt to bad... but wasnt as hungry as before obvioulsy coz of not being on equi anymore. Making the meals just irratated the living shit out of me.

LOL, you crack me up... I hate cooking too, normally on a Sunday I cook a massive stew for Monday / Tuesday food.. takes around 3/4 hours to do it properly. DRIVES ME INSANE!!!!

WAHHAHAHAAH Yeah i cook my meat for the week (mon to fri) on sunday night... pissed me off to do it than and still pisses me off to do it now. Im on my 3rd goerge forman. Cleaning that thing is a bitch, sctratched off the non stick stuff on it... lol

SNOK but how do you keep your meat, freeze it?

00pump wrote:

SNOK but how do you keep your meat, freeze it?

Yeah i freeze my meat for thurs and fri.

SNOK1986 wrote:

00pump wrote:

SNOK but how do you keep your meat, freeze it?

Yeah i freeze my meat for thurs and fri.

Please give me an example of what you would cook on Sunday? Want to look at doing things a different way. My fiance does make my Wed / Thur food though

00pump wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

00pump wrote:

SNOK but how do you keep your meat, freeze it?

Yeah i freeze my meat for thurs and fri.

Please give me an example of what you would cook on Sunday? Want to look at doing things a different way. My fiance does make my Wed / Thur food though

Im eating rump at the moment as well as chicken as im getting poes tired of chicken will try DJ's chicken recipe this weekend.

So i cook 12 chicken breasts thats monday wednesay and friday 4 chicken breasts on each of those days. Freeze 4 breasts.

Than i cook 4 rumps around 250grams a pop, have that on tues and thurs. Freeze 2 of those buggers.

ahh, thanks... yes, i must try his recepie too... normally what I have been doing with my chicken is having around 12-14 breats for 2 days, and I chop them up, cook them in a pot till the water boils out then put a whole lot more in and cook them till they soft, wait for water to boil out then just cook them for a few seconds without water to 'seal' them. Then I throw in 2 cans of tamatoe mix and throw in spices, etc.. throw that on some brown rice and bobs your uncle...

00pump wrote:

ahh, thanks... yes, i must try his recepie too... normally what I have been doing with my chicken is having around 12-14 breats for 2 days, and I chop them up, cook them in a pot till the water boils out then put a whole lot more in and cook them till they soft, wait for water to boil out then just cook them for a few seconds without water to 'seal' them. Then I throw in 2 cans of tamatoe mix and throw in spices, etc.. throw that on some brown rice and bobs your uncle...

Ahhh alright awesome sounds like a good plan might try it out as well. Thank fuck i have a protein shake now, let my jaw rest...lol

Equi causes the hormonal issue, 5-HTP or St Johns wort should be ok.

Dry joints, supplement with MSM and drop the Letro for a few days and give feedback around the results.

Green Tea boosts metabolism and gets that heart pumping, hence the energy burst.