Equi,

Greetingz,

In my 8th week now and my 10ml bottle of equi just finished, From what i read its kinda a waste to only run it for 8 weeks you need 12 - 14? this was my plan but as budgets go its kinda set me back as i have decided to drop the winstrol for anavar from my 10th week?

So do u guys rekon i should do the equi for 12 - 14 weeks? or would 8 be enough?

This is wht my course has consisted of thus far,

week 1 - Dianabol 30mg a day , Noma Test 600mg and Equi 350mg a week
week 2 - Dianabol 30mg a day , Noma Test 600mg and Equi 350mg a week
week 3 - 5 Noma Test 600mg and Equi 350mg a week
Week 5 - 8 Suston 500mg And Equi 350mg a week (changed to sust coz wasnt happy with the noma stuff)

This is what i want it to look like from here on out,

Week 9 - 500mg Suston and Equi350mg
Week 10 - 60mg Anavar 500mg Suston and Equi350mg
Week 11 - 60mg Anavar 500mg Suston and Equi350mg
Week 12 - 60mg Anavar 500mg Suston and Equi350mg
Week 13 - 60mg Anavar and Equi350mg
Week 14 - 60mg Anavar and Equi350mg

Start PCT,

Thoughts?

Anyone?

run another bottle.,..did u draw to much dude?

did u draw to much dude?

Mine was short as well.

Well thats kinda the problem here... I no i only drew 1 ml @ a time so i thought maybe i miss calculated but i am 99% sure i did not i am sure it was short now..I did not want to make a big deal about it , its The PGW one i can understand maybe 1ml but 2?

has anyone else had this problem?

will have to run another bottle,

thankx dj

had like 9.5mls and 9mls before but 8 is low,i am sure that admin can pass on some feed back to precision about this and get it sorted out...

That would be cool, i think wht they have done is awesome i will continue supporting them but this kinda thing cant continue..

350mg eq? hrm, I much prefer 600...

i was waiting for u response pump^^ what brand is the 600mg/l? or does that not exist

Zen wrote:

Well thats kinda the problem here... I no i only drew 1 ml @ a time so i thought maybe i miss calculated but i am 99% sure i did not i am sure it was short now..I did not want to make a big deal about it , its The PGW one i can understand maybe 1ml but 2?

has anyone else had this problem?

will have to run another bottle,

thankx dj

I'm currently experiencing it with the tren E. About .7ml short. I'm not complaining but it just screws you around if you're cycle is planned to the T.

Luckily I'm running another bottle.

Zen wrote:

i was waiting for u response pump^^ what brand is the 600mg/l? or does that not exist

Think he was talking about the weekly dose of 350mg.

EQ needs to be run for 12-14 weeks as it has a long half life, so it only reaches optimum blood levels in week three depending on the dose.

I tried an experiement on my last cycle (6 weeks) of a front load EQ for 3 weeks 1,600mg/week-SHIC and rode the ester for the remaining 3 weeks of the cycle.

Was reasonably happy with the results, the only way to run such a long ester for a short period is by front loading, but not for newbies without quite a few cycles and is risky if you've experienced any problems with EQ-my disclaimer as I can feel Inja typing before I hit the submit button

djeasye wrote:

had like 9.5mls and 9mls before but 8 is low,i am sure that admin can pass on some feed back to precision about this and get it sorted out...

Yeah that's quite worrying, I've come a little short sometimes but just assumed it was personal error in drawing...

Perhaps Precision can post on the thread to comment on this? 2mL is hectic, don't want to see a great brand compromised by volume errors...
He was just here recently to promote the new Super Test so shouldn't be to hard?

Hi Guys

The feedback is appreciated!

Regarding the volume discrepancy, i have chatted to the biochemist, he has confirmed that the bottles are filled to the correct volume, the issue more than likely lies in the fact that when the solution is filtered and filled into the bottles it is hot (solution once heated, expands in volume), and once it cools down it drops in volume.

He has been filling the bottles to the brim, and the issue has been rectified as it was brought to our attention some weeks back.

Please do not feel that we are trying to skimp quantity as user integrity is our game!

We are looking into a slightly bigger bottle for the new year.

Regards

shweet

Cool. That's why I only use PGW! You guys rock.

Precision wrote:

Hi Guys

The feedback is appreciated!

Regarding the volume discrepancy, i have chatted to the biochemist, he has confirmed that the bottles are filled to the correct volume, the issue more than likely lies in the fact that when the solution is filtered and filled into the bottles it is hot (solution once heated, expands in volume), and once it cools down it drops in volume.

He has been filling the bottles to the brim, and the issue has been rectified as it was brought to our attention some weeks back.

Please do not feel that we are trying to skimp quantity as user integrity is our game!

We are looking into a slightly bigger bottle for the new year.

Regards

now i have a question,when u fill the bottles to 10mls with 350mg of equipoise u are getting 3.5g per bottle right? now surely when the solution cools it will still have 3.5g in it but slightly less liquid meaning that it would be concentrated? this could be the reason why the prop sometimes drops out of suspension cos its over dosed?

Zen wrote:

i was waiting for u response pump^^ what brand is the 600mg/l? or does that not exist

Dose at just under 2ml of PGW EQ, I would even split those into 2 shots per week or per 8 days. EQ is lovely, but don't underdose it... 350mg is a bit under 400 is ok 600 is yummy, anything over waste of time.

hence the reason I only use PGW too, after my last query and how they dealt with it... I wont bother with other brands, what for? pgw and lp, thats it....

djeasye wrote:

Precision wrote:

Hi Guys

The feedback is appreciated!

Regarding the volume discrepancy, i have chatted to the biochemist, he has confirmed that the bottles are filled to the correct volume, the issue more than likely lies in the fact that when the solution is filtered and filled into the bottles it is hot (solution once heated, expands in volume), and once it cools down it drops in volume.

He has been filling the bottles to the brim, and the issue has been rectified as it was brought to our attention some weeks back.

Please do not feel that we are trying to skimp quantity as user integrity is our game!

We are looking into a slightly bigger bottle for the new year.

Regards

now i have a question,when u fill the bottles to 10mls with 350mg of equipoise u are getting 3.5g per bottle right? now surely when the solution cools it will still have 3.5g in it but slightly less liquid meaning that it would be concentrated? this could be the reason why the prop sometimes drops out of suspension cos its over dosed?

Well if the volume drops each shot is certainly overdosed. So your injecting more AAS than you think with each shot.
It may impact on the active dropping out of solution in the vial as well like you suggest.

Precision wrote:

Hi Guys

The feedback is appreciated!

Regarding the volume discrepancy, i have chatted to the biochemist, he has confirmed that the bottles are filled to the correct volume, the issue more than likely lies in the fact that when the solution is filtered and filled into the bottles it is hot (solution once heated, expands in volume), and once it cools down it drops in volume.

He has been filling the bottles to the brim, and the issue has been rectified as it was brought to our attention some weeks back.

Please do not feel that we are trying to skimp quantity as user integrity is our game!

We are looking into a slightly bigger bottle for the new year.

Regards

I assume the oil is heated with active in one big batch and then as its cooling this is aliquoted into the 10mL vials.
If you wait for it to cool before aliquoting then the volume would be more accurate... Are there sterility issues when doing it this way or is it simply not done this way to save time?

Also what filtering system are you using? Perhaps some oil is lost during the filtering? With the system I use ( I'm not making sterile injectables mind you) I can lose quite a bit.

Excellent,

Thanks Precision I in now way wanted it to come across as an attack as mistakes can be made buy all, I think in turn these forums can sort out any teething problems, its great to see no-body tries to slam the product but get together make suggestions to make it better! thats how it should be,

Keep up the good work,

u will see my support for as long as i am in sa,

@Pump the new bottle i am gona run at 1.5ml a week yum yum,

Cya

I think another contributing factor to the volume being lower, lies in the syringes we use. You see the neck of the syringe where the needle is attached is not calculated into the measuring lines on the syringe, so every-time you draw from the vial you loose a small amount that stays in the syringe. After 10 or so draws you will have 0.3 - 0.5 ml short.

If one is injecting in a downward angle you can draw some air in with the oil and air will travel to the top of the syringe, just below the stopper... Then when you inject, the air at the end will force out the last of the oil.

I do this in the lab when going through a filter that attaches to the syringe. Becuase liquid is lost into the filter as well I try to force out the last of it out with this air.

Inja wrote:

If one is injecting in a downward angle you can draw some air in with the oil and air will travel to the top of the syringe, just below the stopper... Then when you inject, the air at the end will force out the last of the oil.

I do this in the lab when going through a filter that attaches to the syringe. Becuase liquid is lost into the filter as well I try to force out the last of it out with this air.

:laugh: :laugh: I do the same when i inject! No waste here!

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Inja wrote:

If one is injecting in a downward angle you can draw some air in with the oil and air will travel to the top of the syringe, just below the stopper... Then when you inject, the air at the end will force out the last of the oil.

I do this in the lab when going through a filter that attaches to the syringe. Becuase liquid is lost into the filter as well I try to force out the last of it out with this air.

:laugh: :laugh: I do the same when i inject! No waste here!

Also.
Find it helps with leakage as well