New Potent Fatburner from Axio

Hi,

Has anyone heard or used the following product manufactured by Axio Labs:

CYX3 (an oral blend of T3, Yohimbine and Clenbuterol)

Combines the synergistic fat burning power of beta adrenergic agonists) and alpha adrenergic antagonists (Yohimbine HCl), all to add the T3 characteristics of increase the metabolic rate by increasing Thyroid efficiency.

Clenbuterol - 37.5mcg
T3 - 25mcg
Yohimbine 5.4mg[/b]

I bought 30 of a source and will be trying it in my cut. Anyone used this before?

Thanks

not yet,but was planning on in a few weeks so please keep us updated as to how good you find it,and if you dont feel ur blood pressure goes to high,or get the shakes...
goodluck

Have you used yohimbe and clen simultaneously before? Be careful if you haven't...

OK Guys some feedback:

I took 1 tab early morning yesterday with a glass of water 30 minutes before cardio as directed by the Axio site...and only felt a slight buzz. So this morning again I decided to take 2 the same way and still just a slight raise in temperature and slight tremor. Frankly I expected more as I have not used Clen or Yohimbine before. It definately does work but I would probably have to take 4 of these in the morning to get the same as I do when using ECA. I dunno either its underdosed or does not have all the ingredients it claims to have. I will now be incorparating HEAT as well. I have used large albuterol doses in the past so maybe I have built up a tolerance to the beta 2's.

Your thoughts?

rather stick to 2 tabs for a week and see the results first...
the same compound in the inject form had a couple of guys down as it was to much for them,so be carefull...
if after a week you didnt drop wiegth act then go up to 3 or 4 tabs...
and as far as i know 10 mg a day of yohimbine is enought hey,if you go up to 3 or 4 tabs ul have 15-20 mg a day and that will most probably make you sick...

krielos wrote:

OK Guys some feedback:

I took 1 tab early morning yesterday with a glass of water 30 minutes before cardio as directed by the Axio site...and only felt a slight buzz. So this morning again I decided to take 2 the same way and still just a slight raise in temperature and slight tremor. Frankly I expected more as I have not used Clen or Yohimbine before. It definately does work but I would probably have to take 4 of these in the morning to get the same as I do when using ECA. I dunno either its underdosed or does not have all the ingredients it claims to have. I will now be incorparating HEAT as well. I have used large albuterol doses in the past so maybe I have built up a tolerance to the beta 2's.

Your thoughts?

well first of all seeing it contains t3 u are gonna have to split the does up and then taper up to 4 tabs a day aswell as taper down from it,t3 has a short half life so u need to split the doses 4-6 hours apart... also that whay u will be getting a big dose of clen and yohimbine so get some sleeping tabs dude cos u will be fucked

quadboy wrote:

rather stick to 2 tabs for a week and see the results first...
the same compound in the inject form had a couple of guys down as it was to much for them,so be carefull...
if after a week you didnt drop wiegth act then go up to 3 or 4 tabs...
and as far as i know 10 mg a day of yohimbine is enought hey,if you go up to 3 or 4 tabs ul have 15-20 mg a day and that will most probably make you sick...

OK. Thanks man. Will be sticking to 2 a day for now. My diet and cardio is on point so it will be hard to judge how much I lost from the tabs or from the training and nutrition.

djeasye wrote:

krielos wrote:

OK Guys some feedback:

I took 1 tab early morning yesterday with a glass of water 30 minutes before cardio as directed by the Axio site...and only felt a slight buzz. So this morning again I decided to take 2 the same way and still just a slight raise in temperature and slight tremor. Frankly I expected more as I have not used Clen or Yohimbine before. It definately does work but I would probably have to take 4 of these in the morning to get the same as I do when using ECA. I dunno either its underdosed or does not have all the ingredients it claims to have. I will now be incorparating HEAT as well. I have used large albuterol doses in the past so maybe I have built up a tolerance to the beta 2's.

Your thoughts?

well first of all seeing it contains t3 u are gonna have to split the does up and then taper up to 4 tabs a day aswell as taper down from it,t3 has a short half life so u need to split the doses 4-6 hours apart... also that whay u will be getting a big dose of clen and yohimbine so get some sleeping tabs dude cos u will be fucked

LOL!! Thanks. I need my sleep so I will stick to two a day for now and see how it goes...

ok and the next thing,are u on any anabolic support with this,cos if u are not say bye bye muscle

On my 5th week of axio Anavar. Absolutely fuk all results maybe needs more time to kick in.

i'm starting to see / read some bad comments about axio lately... on forums, in bodybuilding books, etc... hmmmmmmmmmm

I personally wouldn't touch anything Thyroid related..stacking T3 with Yohimbine and Clen also is just madness. Thats one part of the body I would not mess with.

Also heard and read quite a few negative comments on Axio.

the thyroid is quite a resiliant thing,aparently it will always bounce back,so the studies i have read have stated

djeasye wrote:

the thyroid is quite a resiliant thing,aparently it will always bounce back,so the studies i have read have stated

Some prefer tapering to prevent permanent damage to the thyroid. Many do not even want to use it because of this reason. Some people will be able to tolerate the negatives better than others.

i only advocate tapering up and down and using a small pct for t3 usage... from what i read if u do drop it instantly the thyroid will not be perminantly shut down but will take a long time to bounce back to normal...

Tapering it up and down is definately the way to go.

However stuffing that process and dosages up from what I have read and discussed with doctors would leave you dependant on meds like Altroxin for the rest of your life.

Even with the T3 though you have to make sure your Protein is way high, like abnormally way high because it will chow your muscle big time if you don't have something anti-catabolic to stack it with.

go on to elite fitness there is an article there that says it wont do perminant damage

i am looking for the article i found ages ago...but here is so more info
taken off the forum there

This is a VERY feared drug, and i think for no reason. When it first came out and was being used, everyone was scared to death of losing their thyroid forever if not taken carfully. I have personally known many people who have played with this drug (crazy bastards!) just to see what it will do. NONE of them have had ANY problems with permanent thyroid downregulation after. All of them keep the cycles at about 5 weeks or so and never taper up or down. There was no significant weight gain after the cycles either. I think you may get downregulation if you did this for a LONG period of time, but I think its safe for short cycles. The dosags ive seen are anywhere from 25mcg's to 200mcg's !! I also remember reading that there have been NO documented cases of a person ruining their thyroid from Cytomel use. I will be looking for more info as this week goes on. I myself have taken this drug and use it for two different occasions. I use it when gaining mass to increase protein synthesis and to help keep bloat off(low dosage 25-50mcg's). I use it when dieting to keep my thyroid up to stop diet sticking points(dosages vary depending on my temp). Well, for those of you who have NO idea what im talking about this far, heres a description for you to learn about this drug.
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Cytomel:
Cytomel is not an anabolic/androgenic ******* but a thyroid hormone. As a substance it contains
synthetically manufactured liothyronine sodium which resembles the natural thyroid hormone
Tricodide-thyronine (L-T3). The thyroid of a healthy person usually produces two hormones, the
better known L-thyroxine (L-T4) and the aforementioned L-trilodine~thyronine (L-T3). Since Cytomel
is the synthetic equivalent of the latter hormone, it causes the same processes in the body as if the
thyroid were to produce more of the hormone. It is interesting to note that L-T3 is clearly the
stronger and more effective of these two hormones. This makes Cytomel more effective than the
commercially available L-T4 compounds such as L-thyroxine or Synthroid. The manufacturer of the
German L-T3 compound, Hoechst AG, ascribes the following characteristics to its Thybon drug,
making it clear that L-T3 is superior to L-T4: "The synthetically manufactured thyroid hormone,
L-trilodine-thyronine (L-T3), included in Thybon, in experimental and clinical testing has proven to be
4-5 times more biologically active and to take effect more quickly than L-thyroxine (L-T4)." In school
medicine Cytomel is used to treat thyroid insufficiency (hypothyroidism). Among other secondary
symptoms are obesity, metabolic disorders, and fatigue. Bodybuilders take advantage of these
characteristics and stimulate their metabolism by taking Cytomel, which causes a faster
conversion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Bodybuilders, of course, are especially interested
in an increased lipolysis, which means increased fat burning. Competing bodybuilders, in particular,
use Cytomel during the weeks before a championship since it helps to maintain an extremely low
fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet. Athletes who use low dosages of Cytomel report
that by the simultaneous intake of *******s, the *******s become more effective, most likely as the
result of the faster conversion of protein.

Until recently, Cytomel was used by bodybuilders and female bodybuilders, in particular-on a daily
basis over several months to remain "hard" and in good shape all year round. Believe us when we
tell you that to a great extent several bodybuilders who are pictured in "muscle magazines" and
display a hard and defined look in photos, eat fast food and iron this out by taking Cytomel. The over
stimulated thyroid burns calories like a blast furnace. Nowadays, instead of Cytomel, athletes use
Clenbuterol, which is becoming more and more popular. Those who combine these two compounds
will burn an enormous amount of fat. The next time you read that a certain pro bodybuilder
approaching a championship competition is still eating 4000 calories a day, you will know why.
Cytomel is also popular among female bodybuilders. Since women generally have slower
metabolisms than men, it is extremely difficult for them to obtain the right form for a competition
given today's standards. A drastic reduction of food and calories below the 1000 calorie/day mark
can often be avoided by taking Cytomel. Women, no doubt, are more prone to side effects than men
but usually get along well with 50 mcg/day. A short-term intake of Cytomel in a reasonable dosage
is certainly "healthier" than an extreme hunger diet.

As for the dosage, one should be very careful since Cytomel is a very strong and highly effective
thyroid hormone. It is extremely important that one begins with a low dosage, increasing it slowly
and evenly over the course of several days. Most athletes begin by taking one 25 mcg tablet per day
and increasing this dosage every three to four days by one additional tablet. A dose higher than 100
mcg/ day is not necessary and not advisable. It is not recommended that the daily dose be taken all
at once but broken down into three smaller individual doses so that they become more effective. It
is also important that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of
abstinence from the drug needs to follow. Those who take high dosages of Cytomel over a long
period of time are at risk of developing a chronic thyroid insufficiency. As a consequence, the
athlete might be forced to take thyroid medication for the rest of his life. It is also important that
the dosage is reduced slowly and evenly by taking fewer tablets and not be ended abruptly. Those
who plan to take Cytomel should first consult a physician in order to be sure that no thyroid hyper
function exists.

Possible side effects such as medication are described in the package insert by the German
pharmaceutical group Hoechst AG for their compound Thybon: "Exceeding the individual limits of
compatibility for liothyronine or taking an overdose, especially, if the dose is increased too quickly
at the beginning of the treatment, can cause the following clinical symptoms for a thyroid
hyperfunction): heart palpitation, trembling, irregular heartbeat, heart oppression, agitation,
shortness of breath, excretion of sugar through the urine, excessive perspiration, diarrhea, weight
loss, psychic disorders, etc., as well as symptoms of hypersensitivity." Our experience is that most
symptoms consist of trembling of hands, nausea, headaches, high perspiration, and increased
heartbeat. These negative side effects can often be eliminated by temporarily reducing the daily
dosage. Caution, however is advised when taking Cytomel since, especially in the beginning, the
effect can be quick and sometimes drastic. Athletes do not use the injectable version of L-T3, this
is normally used as "emergency therapy for thyrotoxic coma." Those who use Cytomel over several
weeks will experience a decrease in muscle mass. This can be avoided or delayed by
simultaneously taking *******s. For the most part, since Cytomel also metabolizes protein, the
athlete must eat a diet rich in protein.

L-T3 can usually be found quite easily. 100 tablets of 0.05 mg each cost approx. $50. The product by
Schein Company, according to the dealer catalog, with the same substance concentration and
quantity of tablets, costs $30. It is unlikely that there will be fakes.

djeasye wrote:

go on to elite fitness there is an article there that says it wont do perminant damage

I don't want to get into a pissing match but when I heard EF I just couldn't resist. It is possible that no damage may occur but if one group say yes and the other no, I will pick the safe side. (Cardio and diet)

Quotes:
"The fat kid in the picture is the proclaimed guru over on Elite."
"Yeah its ashame. People think he is a God over at elite. They kiss his ass. I bet if they saw his pic they would think otherwise. I feel bad for anyone taking his advice."
"Yet another reason to always research whatever advice you are given by a so called "guru"."

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i agree with you i have been warned so many times about playing with thyroids. Id rather stay away from it myself and look for other means. That and Insulin I dont wanna take risks with

tell me about it... its a freakin scary thing to play with just like that of slin... leave me out of it.......

yea i hear u about being a guru etc but at the end of the day it was a medical study not just some idiot ranting and raving,

its just very infromative to know that people think it can be shut down etc but it doesnt really,even anthony roberts pulled an exert out of some medical journal about t3 and said the same thing...

Hi Guys,
Just watching my thread with curiosity...long way from where it started. My two cents on t3:

I have used it numerous times for competition prep with excellent results and no problems. Once due to unforeseen circumstances I went from 60mcg to 20mcg and then nothing in two days with no bad effects. I do normally start on high doses(40mcg) then taper up and then taper down from there.

i've used it a couple of times too and no problems here...i did loose close on 10kgs in 6 weeks with hardcore dieting and cardio aswell though

djeasye wrote:

i've used it a couple of times too and no problems here...i did loose close on 10kgs in 6 weeks with hardcore dieting and cardio aswell though

Exactly!! It won't work without stringent diet and at least moderate cardio...