Anapolon

heard some pretty insane things about this drug,both good and bad ... Is it worth taking Anapolon? and do the gains stay or quickly disappear?

I've been very hesitant to try this substance over the last couple of years and still have my reservations. So I'll be watching this thread closely.

What I've heard is that you get exceptional gains but also exceptional liver damage!

"However, although the substance of Anapolon had been powerful, it unfortunately, also had imposed the highest threat for serious adverse reactions out of any oral or injectable steroids compounds. A few athletes had experienced excessive water retention which had sometimes resulted in high blood pressure. Anapolon had very high DHT levels, and had been very toxic to the liver, due to the characteristics of being C-17 alphaallrylated steroid."

Extract for steroid.com

Yeah thats why i ask,ive been hesitant myself.Hope some experienced guys can give us some input

Using 150mg per day at the moment and my liver is feeling it for sure.

how are the gains from 50mg ed for 6 weeks.....will they stay around or vanish after pct?

Not used it in ages, but when I did I felt I could lift a house... very potent stuff....

@admin, shoe you must be looking beef on that ammount and seriously strong.... hmmm, i wonder if i should try it again......

admin wrote:

Using 150mg per day at the moment and my liver is feeling it for sure.

admin why don't you use LIV52 DS along with it. very potent liver formula that all the BB in europe use when on hardcore stuff. if you can't find it in your local pharmacy then pm me and i'll send you some. the stuff is really really good.

00pump wrote:

Not used it in ages, but when I did I felt I could lift a house... very potent stuff....

@admin, shoe you must be looking beef on that ammount and seriously strong.... hmmm, i wonder if i should try it again......

My strength is up big time, but gain wise I've not noticed much other than some water retention. I've been using for a week now only...

Sparky wrote:

admin wrote:

Using 150mg per day at the moment and my liver is feeling it for sure.

admin why don't you use LIV52 DS along with it. very potent liver formula that all the BB in europe use when on hardcore stuff. if you can't find it in your local pharmacy then pm me and i'll send you some. the stuff is really really good.

I am using Milk Thistle at the moment, but if this LIV52 DS is better I'll gladly give it a go. How do you think the two compare?

they use all funny names for the ingredients like indigiounos names. but i think one of the ingredients is milk thistle. from what i heard and read on the net, the guys rate it more than just milk thistle alone and it's cheap. R100 for 60 tabs. suppose the only way you'll know is to try it youself and see if it helps with the liver problem.

admin wrote:

Sparky wrote:

admin wrote:

Using 150mg per day at the moment and my liver is feeling it for sure.

admin why don't you use LIV52 DS along with it. very potent liver formula that all the BB in europe use when on hardcore stuff. if you can't find it in your local pharmacy then pm me and i'll send you some. the stuff is really really good.

I am using Milk Thistle at the moment, but if this LIV52 DS is better I'll gladly give it a go. How do you think the two compare?

@admin my natrual doctor recommends SAMe over Milk Thistle but suggests I take them both for best results.. he says nothing works as well as SAMe.

From what I've read it seems like SAMe can actually regenerate damaged liver cells as where milk thistle is only a detox agent. The only problem with SAMe is its not cheap.

vega5 ye it aint.. but man its powerfull stuff!!!

Anyone in Johannesburg i'd suggest go do a blood test with this natrual doc of mine.. He sits in the Health shop in Sandton on weekends, he just takes a prick and puts it under his scope.. you will be shocked what he can find right there and then. I was shocked when I saw how the red blood cell walls where so damaged. he has been working on all aspects and after seeing my blood 2 months later its like 90% better. the cost of the appoitment are cheap when done at Sandton in the health shop and not in his rooms!

Got this off www.liv52ds.com/product/product_id/6

Each Herbal Liv.52 tablet contains -
Himsra (Capparis spinosa) 65mg
Kasani (Cichorium intybus) 65mg
Mandur bhasma 33mg
Kakamachi (Solanum nigrum) 32mg
Arjuna (Terminalia arjuna) 32mg
Kasamarda (Cassia occidentalis) 16mg
Biranjasipha (Achillea millefolium) 16mg
Jhavuka (Tamarix gallica) 16mg


The LIV52 DS (Double Strength) has double the dosages.

P.S. I don't see any silly bums like Sparky suggests

I use have used Anapolon on 3 courses now, I never exceed 100mg a day, i start the first 5 days on 50mg a day, the half life on anapolon is +- 9 hours so I take one in the morning with breakfast and one with dinner, MUST drink 3 - 4 litres of water a day, avoid alcohol if u can, must eat like a pig as you know! drink green tea and rooibos. all the usual u should know about anyway! it is extremely toxic. it is a water based drug therefor I would use it for 3 weeks, stay on your test and deca (just an example) for 5 weeks and then move onto an injectable winny and tren for hardening, and you will be more likely to keep your gains but look hard! Remember keeping your gains does not mean weighing the same.

Wrote this really quickly before poker evening so hope it all makes sense, but feel free to ask questions

Oh and strength is hugely increased!

thanks BIgW ...just want to know if you would recommend anapolon alone, or should i rather do something like anavar if i want to do oral only...giving the injections a break at the moment

@admin how do you control the negative sides of anadrol? eg: the excess water? etc... knowing my current gyno prone condition I would have to take something other than letro? Parlodel ? Do you use a diuretic during this peroid? How long before the end of your cycle do you stop taking it? can should you take it right up to the last few days? or rather run a hardening drug during this time something like winnie?

Sweet

HULKman wrote:

thanks BIgW ...just want to know if you would recommend anapolon alone, or should i rather do something like anavar if i want to do oral only...giving the injections a break at the moment

Rather use T - Bol or Var if you're doing an oral only cycle.

00pump wrote:

@admin how do you control the negative sides of anadrol? eg: the excess water? etc... knowing my current gyno prone condition I would have to take something other than letro? Parlodel ? Do you use a diuretic during this peroid? How long before the end of your cycle do you stop taking it? can should you take it right up to the last few days? or rather run a hardening drug during this time something like winnie?

Sweet

I can live with most side-effects, but the liver toxicity is really crippling me. I take 1mg Adex per day to combat the estrogen... Letro is too much and causes more side-effects on its own. I only used it in the first 3 weeks of a 8 week cycle. I will now replace it with Anavar until the cycle ends.

Admin:
Not wanting to be the one to pry but how is it that A-dex helps with the Anadrol gynecomastia?

From what I remember oxymetholone is not metabolized by the aromatase enzyme and thus using a A.I. wont help. It creates gyno by some other mechanism other than conversion to an estrogen derivative... I think binds to the Estrogen Receptor directly but don't know if I have lit for that. Will check later after I do the laundry.

admin wrote:

00pump wrote:

@admin how do you control the negative sides of anadrol? eg: the excess water? etc... knowing my current gyno prone condition I would have to take something other than letro? Parlodel ? Do you use a diuretic during this peroid? How long before the end of your cycle do you stop taking it? can should you take it right up to the last few days? or rather run a hardening drug during this time something like winnie?

Sweet

I can live with most side-effects, but the liver toxicity is really crippling me. I take 1mg Adex per day to combat the estrogen... Letro is too much and causes more side-effects on its own. I only used it in the first 3 weeks of a 8 week cycle. I will now replace it with Anavar until the cycle ends.

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Question: what to use while on anadrol

Answer: Letro or armidex but I prefer letro if there is a chance of progesterone sides

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Question: What treatment would be recommended for gyno from anadrol?

Answer: Letrozole by itself should do the trick if the gyno just started.

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Default Re: what best fight gyno with anadrol?
According to my research letro is the way to go with anadrol.
It can reduce a lot of the bloating also.
I developed gyno under one nipple running test/deca/anadrol stack.Letro alleviated the gyno quick fast.

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*shrugs* allot of people seem to have this way of thinking.

Sure bro, but if it doesn't interact with the aromatase enzyme then how would an A.I. like Letro or A-dex help?

I don't know really, but the adex seems to be helping as I'm not showing gyno signs yet.

Are you prone to gyno Admin?
I'm glad the A-dex is working for you. I know others on the net say they benefit from it to when experiencing Adrol gyno. However it seems Mr. Pumper is rather gyno prone (amongst numerous other health concerns he's strugling from) so I'm a little worried about him using the Adrol. Especially if there is no known reason for the Adrol's gyno causing.

Mr. Pumper it seems, is a rather, um, special case?