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have been using roids but are earing alot of diff things
are 101KG with 17% bady fat 29 years old
need to go on a diet any suggestions and need to set up a training course
what juice should i go with please any help
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now its up 2 the big boys hehe.
Im not a doctor,but ill take a look.
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106kg with 26% body fat 3 months ago have dropped to 101 175 and on my way down
are currently on decca winny and clenbuterol and currentlu im trying that MAX OT the
reason i started with this site is my friend got hold of decca 350 and have been
trying for 2 weeks to order they gave me the way how to but didnt give me the address
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are currently on decca 300 p/w and winny
have harden alot
would i be able to use the decca and the equi together and how mutch
have you bought over the post before have had istructions how to
but no address to post it to heard their equi are good and its good priced
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7-9kg's is still a lot of fat to loose so taking for granted your diet and training are correct I would recommend - HGH 2-3iu's/day for 10-12 weeks - Winstrol(oral)20-25mg 2x/day(for the 1st 4 weeks moving on to - Anavar 15-20mg 2x/day for the next 4 weeks also start with Clenbuterol for 2 weeks (start 2mcg working up to 6mcgs)then on to ECA stack for 2 weeks(working up to 3caps/day) and cycle the clen and ECA(every 2weeks)for 6-8 weeks the reason for alternating these 2 products is to avoid the receptor downgrade that occurs rapidly with these products leading to higher dosages required.(there will but a need for short PCT at the end of the Anavar - 500ius pregnyl 3x during the last week of the Anavar and 3-4days after last Anavar dose start Kessar at 20mg/day for 21 days you will find little loss of muscle during PCT while still on the HGH )some may disagree with me but let me tell you i have had a 100% success rate with every person who has used this protocol,hope this helps
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do you know where i can go look for a descent diet or do you have a sample
ive always been a drinker have given it up for gymming so wanna go big this year
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- will not use Deca without ANY testosterone base, preferably testo-prop. As little as 100mg Deca will suppress your HPTA within one week and will keep it suppressed at least another 2 weeks after the last deca shot. Good idea to continue Test-prop for another 2 weeks after last deca to support your testosterone levels.
- would use the HGH at higher doses, say 2IU's 3 x p day, but cycle it 3 days on, 4 days off. By doing this, you are mimicking your normal Circadian pulse release of HGH, thus not receptor down regulating and not suppressing HP-GRnH axis. On the non-HGH days, use 10-15gr L-Arginine twice daily and 5gr GABA before bed, BUT do not use this the days of your HGH use. Total HGH IU's over this period should more or less be the same.
- Equi is a good drug, being a testosterone derivative with very little estrogen aromatizing - so, you will not use Kessar with it. You do not want to suppress your estrogen levels too much, as the estrogen stimulates the liver to have IGF-1 production, which you still want while on the HGH. If you are going to continue to use the Deca, consider adding in some low dose Parlodel, but no more than 2,5mg per day . Many studies show that at this dose, it is strong enough to counteract the progesteronic effect of the Deca, without having any suppressive effect on HGH levels, and it will push up your libido too.
- I would add on some 2-3mg Ketotifen the moment you start with your Clen/ECA stack, as this will reverse the receptor down regulation by the latter two compounds. By doing this, you can continue very long with the Clen/ECA stack without having to increase the dosage. By continuing longer with this combination, you will be able to anabolic support your gains, leading to solidifying them, as well as rehablitation of your Thyroid.
Conan, your Winstrol and Anavar is an excellent choice. I just think, depending on the dosage and length of his Deca course (remember as little as 100mg needed to suppress HPTA and he is using 350mg p week) he might need a bit more HCG. I never knew Deca can be so suppressive of your natural test level - I was astonished to read about it's strong suppressive effects a while back. Made me look at Deca with other eyes.
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will see what he says havent had any luck for 2 weeks to get direction on how to order
can i just start with the GHG or would i have to take pregnyl before i start
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- use Parlodel 2,5mg daily with it.
- use 0,5mg Arimidex with it - this will stop estrogen sides from the test I run along with Deca, and Arimidex will also increase natural test production by about 50%.
- will use 50mg Clomid every day of the Deca cycle.
- Will use 500IU's HCG weekly along with the Deca.
- Will finish off the Deca cycle, followed by Tren at 150mg every 4 days for three shots.
My Deca cycle is (believe it or not !) only 10 days. It will stay in the system for 1/2 life of another 16 days after the last shot - here the Tren will carry androgen part of cycle through. I have decided to use very short, regular interval cycles later this year and use my phases in accordance to my cortisol blood levels. I have found that on any basic cycle, cortisol even things out by 4-5 weeks into cycle - then usually you stop gaining further. Why then stay on for another 6 weeks.? Go off and rather go on again in 6 weeks...
Will see how it goes...
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Doctari, I share your view on the short/quick cycles... that's why I like to use the faster acting esters. I used to like 10-12 week cycles, but the gains to the end wasn't worth all the money spend on anabolics/PCT and then you get shutdown even more.
MxT once said that he would rather gain 4kg with a short cycle and keep it all than gaining 8kg just to loose most of it.
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SOUNDS LIKE YOUVE BEEN HAVING SOME PROBLEMS IN THAT DEPARTMENT
HAVE MADE A FEW PHONE CALLS BUT NO ONE CAN GET HOLD OF HGH HAVE TRIED TO ORDER
FROM PGW BUT NO LUCK.
IF I CONTINUE WITH THE DECCA HOW MUST I GO BOUT IT WHAT MUST I MIX WITH IT AND AT WHAT
CYCLES. (THIS IS MY SECOND CHOICE)
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are busy getting the HGH how must i begin you said 2-3ius per day so is it 2 or 3 and for how long how must i take it
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please explain step by step how i must handle the course are getting all together but dont understand what to take when
and what to swop out with each other
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Winstrol(oral) 20mg taken 2x/day Weeks 1-4
Anavar(PGW-only real one)15mg taken 2x/day Weeks 5-8
Clenbuterol(2wk's on 2wk's off)alternated with ECA(2wk's on 2wk's off)
Clen dose-start with 2mcg-4days;4mcg-4days;6mcg-6days
ECA dose-start with 1cap(20mg ephadrine)in the morning- working your way up to 3caps/day(dont take after 3pm-affects sleep)
Pregnyl 250ius 2x/week from 2nd week till 7th week in the 8th week 500iu's x3(Mon+Wed+Fri)
Kessar(start 3 days after last Anavar tab)20mg/day for 21 days
HGH(I'm taking for granted you have 100iu's)2iu's/day-subcutanous(Mon-Fri;off Sat+Sun)and this will last 2 weeks into PCT(10 weeks altogether)Remember HGH inj. are site specific for fat loss(fat loss at injection site) and dont inject in the same place twice, move them around.Hope this is detailed enough.
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