PGW Label on Test Cyp - Do I have a fake?

So I bought this from a good local source. But this time the vial looks different than the PGW update thread, although it was done in 2015 www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/6-stero...92-pgw-lable-updates so does the lable. Very pixelated lable and no pgw sticker around the top of the vial. The hologram is also not there.

Might this be the old packaging which I am not sure they stopped using at which date.

Any input would be appreciated.

That vial is fake.

Let me guess, your "good" local source is from Cape Town? There are legitimate suppliers in Cape Town, but this is not one of them and you will struggle to find the good ones, because Cape Town is the scam capital of SA.

Interesting,

Looks similar to the PGW I have (unused). I will post pics tonight of mine. Looks like it was printed with a home printer.

Is there a verification number you can use to search their web for legitimacy.

I bought mine from a source in Gauteng.

esgaroth wrote: Is there a verification number you can use to search their web for legitimacy.

Sadly they don't and that's probably a major contributor to why they are faked.

This is a Fake.
Another guy on the forum had one. Seeme like cp is fake capital as admin said.

I feel as if there should be a sticky warning people about buying gear in cape town lol

I said it before and say it again, even though I have trusted sources in cape town I will not buy anything for myself, a friend or family in cape town again. I would rather wait a month if my source for some reason doesn't have stock, but nobody in my hometown will get business from me or anyone I assist in cape town

I can confirm with absolute certainty that this vial is fake, no doubt about it. BeastBiceps and esgaroth please confront your respective suppliers about this and ask them for refunds.

admin wrote: I can confirm with absolute certainty that this vial is fake, no doubt about it. BeastBiceps and esgaroth please confront your respective suppliers about this and ask them for refunds.

Thanks Admin. Refund LOL What are the odds a deal gives a refund? And unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it, certainly no legal leg to stand on

BeastBiceps wrote: Thanks Admin. Refund LOL What are the odds a deal gives a refund? And unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it, certainly no legal leg to stand on

Even respected dealers are scammed with fake supplies and it has happened before that they will issue refunds in order to protect their credibility. Perhaps your dealer got the fakes somewhere else, he didn't necessarily make them himself or knew they were fake in the first place. However if your dealer doesn't refund you then you know where to shop going forward.

Be interesting to know what's actually in that vial

lobo wrote: Be interesting to know what's actually in that vial

I wonder if anyone has the "RoidTest" kit from Dave's website available locally. Would be interesting to give it a test.

Im amazed they would fake a local brand. I mean if you gonna fake something fake a pharmaceutical grade product

Hi,

So blood work came in today. Although everyone has confirmed it is not actual PGW it seems it is indeed testosterone.

Total test maxed out at >1500
Fre test maxed out >1737
SHBG 17.8 which is in the low normal range

So indeed testosterone. Although not PGW based on the visual factors, not sure which brand, not cool by any stretch, it is 100% confirmed testosterone and not just carrier oil. Is it cypionate - who knows. Do we know it went through the right steps in the manufacturing process PGW takes - No.

Donky Kong wrote: Im amazed they would fake a local brand. I mean if you gonna fake something fake a pharmaceutical grade product

1: They fake products from quality UG Labs all the time.
2: PGW is a reputable brand with no validation so easier to fake than some others.
3: Pharma products are hard to fake as they often come in ampoules or expensive packaging.
4: Pharma companies will come after you if you fake their stuff and have tons of money to spend on lawyers that will ruin your life.

admin wrote:

Donky Kong wrote: Im amazed they would fake a local brand. I mean if you gonna fake something fake a pharmaceutical grade product

1: They fake products from quality UG Labs all the time.
2: PGW is a reputable brand with no validation so easier to fake than some others.
3: Pharma products are hard to fake as they often come in ampoules or expensive packaging.
4: Pharma companies will come after you if you fake their stuff and have tons of money to spend on lawyers that will ruin your life.

Exactly. I UGL cannot go after a fake brand or using legal aspects to do so lol.

Recall a guy musclehead320 in the states used some big pharm brands name on the gear they were making and got 10 years inside...apparently sentence would of been a lot less if he had just used a different name.

Just a heads up to the opening poster. Since you are in CT and are most likely going to source gear here, i would opt for HD Labs until you can get a reputable source with legit PGW. In my opinion they're the next top brand and so far seem to be the only one i have not seen faked yet. beware though our capetonian sources have crazy mark ups on the gear.

Hoosain wrote: Just a heads up to the opening poster. Since you are in CT and are most likely going to source gear here, i would opt for HD Labs until you can get a reputable source with legit PGW. In my opinion they're the next top brand and so far seem to be the only one i have not seen faked yet. beware though our capetonian sources have crazy mark ups on the gear.

How much do you pay for test cypionate in Cape Town?

BeastBiceps wrote: How much do you pay for test cypionate in Cape Town?

Can’t discuss prices on the forum, rule 2.4: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/rules

Out of interest, how much were you dosing weekly for those levels?

Howzit. With consideration to the pgw cyp. I am soon going to be going onto a pgw superset 320 cycle and I would like to know if anyone can tell between a real and fake pgw product?

BeastBiceps wrote:

Hoosain wrote: Just a heads up to the opening poster. Since you are in CT and are most likely going to source gear here, i would opt for HD Labs until you can get a reputable source with legit PGW. In my opinion they're the next top brand and so far seem to be the only one i have not seen faked yet. beware though our capetonian sources have crazy mark ups on the gear.

How much do you pay for test cypionate in Cape Town?

to answer your question without breaking rules... i don't pay for test cyp in CT. I don't buy in CT at all due to fake gear being such a big thing here.

Alpine wrote: Howzit. With consideration to the pgw cyp. I am soon going to be going onto a pgw superset 320 cycle and I would like to know if anyone can tell between a real and fake pgw product?

look at the banners on this site. If x product dont look like the pictures on here. Then chances are its fake

People are still being scammed by the same counterfeiter, he is a well known bodybuilder but obviously a dodgy and untrustworthy person.

There are photos of genuine PGW injectables for most of their line-up here: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/suppliers/precision-gear-works

Use the photos in the link above to validate your products. We're missing photos for 2 or 3 products, but will add those when the photos become available.

Supplied images of fakes and real vials side by side.: